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Post by Lee Harradine Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:58 am

He has made a significant impact on all our teams and the Club is in an amazing position moving forward off the back of what he was able to implement with his experiences working in elite sporting teams.

I'm all in favour of saying nice things about people leaving, but IMO this is a bit over the top after only 11 months, wooden spoon and way above normal hamstring injuries.

I can't see that we're in an 'amazing position moving forward'.

I also can't see many 'green shoots'.

I know criticism isn't well regarded, but can't we just be realistic about where we are?
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Post by blackandred Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:22 am

We had a terrible 2021 season with many problems but I don't believe our fitness was one of them.
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Post by RODH2 Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:17 pm

Call me cynical, but "The Club is in an amazing position moving forward" sounds trite, disrespectful to supporters and is absolute Bulls**t. Fair Dinkum.
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Post by Lee Harradine Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:27 pm

blackandred wrote:We had a terrible 2021 season with many problems but I don't believe our fitness was one of them.

I agree, B&R, but that's why it's disappointing that we have to start again with someone new.
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Post by bruce cameron Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:39 pm

RODH2 wrote: Call me cynical, but "The Club is in an amazing position moving forward" sounds trite, disrespectful to supporters and is absolute Bulls**t. Fair Dinkum.

It depends on your definition of amazing. If it's causing great surprise or wonder; astonishing. Then I agree.

I'm surprised we're in the position we are. I wonder how we're going to get out of it and I'll be astonished if we do.



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Post by aldo russian Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:18 pm

blackandred wrote:We had a terrible 2021 season with many problems but I don't believe our fitness was one of them.

It wasn't for those who didn't pull hamstrings, but 20+ hammies could be construed as a bit of a fitness problem.
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Post by Oldfella Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:34 pm

This does not add up to me

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Post by Lee Harradine Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:45 am

Can anyone clear up a query I have, please?

The Club announced the retirements of Kaine Stevens and Nathan Batley and said Josh Schiller wouldn't be at Westies next year. Hope I got that right.

At the B & F , the Club recognised Kaine and Nathan, but not Josh, who is a premiership player.

Is Josh continuing, hopefully, or what's happening?

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Post by firstblood Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:30 pm

Lee, Josh didn't want to make a big deal about announcing his retirement at the B&F, it wasn't mentioned. He's just that sort of person.
So in answering your question, no he will not continue playing for West.
He's given his all for the club as a player, and a premiership player as well.
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Post by Oldfella Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:35 pm

Thanks Ditz --- he has been a very unlucky player who I deeply respect.

When is training starting again mate

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Post by Lee Harradine Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:54 pm

firstblood wrote:Lee, Josh didn't want to make a big deal about announcing his retirement at the B&F, it wasn't mentioned. He's just that sort of person.
So in answering your question, no he will not continue playing for West.
He's given his all for the club as a player, and a premiership player as well.

Thanks Dits, I agree, he's been a great player and person for us. I've admired the way he fought his way into the team, reinvented himself as an inside mid and got the very best out of himself.

I wish him all the best for the future.
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Post by Lee Harradine Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:38 pm

Is Hugh Haysman still with us?
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Post by Bottle Top Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:04 am

well, the mass exodus of players from West Adelaide made headlines in the Advertiser this morning.

surely not Haysman also??

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Post by jmc80 Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:43 am

I hope Hugh is staying, but he did plan to leave in 2020 and then the VFL got shut down and his plans changed. Maybe that's happening again?
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Post by Lee Harradine Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:20 am

Bottle Top wrote:well, the mass exodus of players from West Adelaide made headlines in the Advertiser this morning.

surely not Haysman also??


No, I don't know, just asking.
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Post by redblack32 Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:20 am

What was in the advitiser?
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Post by Lee Harradine Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:26 am

Bottle Top wrote:well, the mass exodus of players from West Adelaide made headlines in the Advertiser this morning.

surely not Haysman also??


Can you post a link, BT?
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Post by Wolf Pack Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:32 am

Given what is happening, surely questions need to be asked about the coaching group?
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Post by Oldfella Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:50 am

Lethal, article is in Members read today's paper section and I cannot copy ------ best can do
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Post by Lee Harradine Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:53 am

Thanks oldfella.
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Post by Oldfella Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:56 am

Click on it to read missing bit on right

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Post by loppy19 Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:27 pm

So my read is that all clubs are losing players to the comp, West are doing that but also losing better players to teams that are playing finals. No surprise there, many supporters won’t go to watch it’s been so poor for so long, can’t blame some players for leaving to play in competitive teams.
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Post by Lee Harradine Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:00 pm

The draft is still some time away, so recruiting doesn't finish until well after that.

It's a truism of recruiting that if you lose a player, it's best they go interstate or to the country, as long as they're not playing against you, which is a double whammy. Duval to the Eagles and Dunkin to South hurts.

However, we'll have plenty of cap space with all the departures, so we should be able to recruit some good players, as long as our recent record doesn't turn recruits off.

Not great publicity, but we have to move on.

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Post by Barkez Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:52 pm

Well said Lee, totally agree with you I guess we all just have to sit tight and wait for what gets announced in the coming weeks 👍
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Post by jmc80 Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:42 pm

Anderson retirement just announced by the club.

Along with another Canberra recruit.
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