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Post by Barkez Sat May 07, 2022 6:41 pm

Really pointless saying anything on here with concern bcos it’s pointless best just to be positive and stay committed to success and things will happen there were changes made today one qtr let us down and people who actually follow our great club are seriously in optimistic thoughts not hiding behind the scenes like they actually go to games win lose or draw!!!
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Post by Bottle Top Sat May 07, 2022 6:51 pm

yeah we won the second half, but the cows had won the game by half time
0.1 to 8.4 in the second quarter!!!   weak as diluted p!$$ West Adelaide!!!!!

the way Wests  play is putrid, the players we have are incapable of playing the way the coach wants.
Wests had 19 more disposals then the cows
disposal efficiency was the same for both teams 78% / 77%
despite being smashed in hit outs, clearances were 29 to 31 yet the cows had 14 more scoring shots for a winning margin of 54 points.

K. Ryan, Couroupis and Delahunty should play in the league team for the remainder of the season.

C. Gay had 20 touches and kicked 3 in the reserves. what more do you want Gotch?
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Post by RODH2 Sat May 07, 2022 6:55 pm

Except it's not 'win, lose, or draw', Barkez, it's 'lose, lose, and lose', and has been since the great "revival" that was promised to us.
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Post by GoBloods Sat May 07, 2022 7:15 pm

Have to agree with Bundy with the reserves after watching them today. Midfield is accountable and they set up covering the exit points on ball ups in stoppages. They do play distinctly different. The reserves do train separately and it’s beginning to show. I thought this week would have been a complete structural change in league or a complete change up of our midfield- I was wrong. It’s hard to be positive now and I can’t even begin to contemplate how the players are feeling. It’s going to be a long season. Surely it’s time to come out and say the focus is now on development and rebuilding and start to blood more youngsters and get a head start on next season since we all know this season is well and truely over.
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Post by bruce cameron Sat May 07, 2022 11:53 pm

Wolf Pack wrote:
The crowd was poor and there are a few regular Westies people not going to games anymore……

I find this very sad.  I have also noticed the missing faces. These are fiercely loyal supporters who are used to disappointment and whose attendance was once a given. So why wouldn't they bother turning up to a home game at Richmond? I think it's due to a complete absence of hope. The only time supporters got really vocal today, apart from the odd outrageous umpiring decision, was when young Kobe Ryan was involved in a passage of play. Other than these times the small crowd was generally quiet which resulted in an almost total lack of atmosphere. Bizarre programming also is playing a part. We don't play another game at home, as opposed to a home game, until the 18th June when we play the Crows again. 42 days is a long time.  Unless they are prepared to travel to Loxton, home match only members will have quite a wait. These are sad times, a likely fourth consecutive wooden spoon and a chance to beat our previous consecutive loss record. (if we haven't already done so.) Add in our goalless performance last year and we are creating new records for all the wrong reasons.

As for today's performance, our second half, according to the scoreboard at least, was better. Unfortunately, too often  our performance only improves once the result has been decided and a good deal of intensity has gone out of the game. We kicked 3 goals in the last 8 minutes to reduce the margin from 12 goals to 9. (This is not a rarity. Rd 19 2021 We kicked the last 4 goals of the game and lost by 43 pts. Similar in Rds 12&18 Kicked the last 3 and lost by 36 in both cases - Last 3 Rds 1&3 Last 4 Rd 9 - all losses This year we kicked 6 out of the last 9 against the Eagles) Is this overly negative? No, it is simply a reality. We supporters want to see genuine improvement and not imagine otherwise.


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Post by Wolf Pack Sun May 08, 2022 8:23 am

Unfortunately Brad Gotch for whatever reason has not been able to get any improvement from our team at all. I would say we are playing even worse than last year. We won 2 games last year but lost a handful of games by small margins.
This year we get belted most weeks and are simply not competitive. Our last 3 losses have been 9 goals or more. The way we move the ball is awful to watch and our skill level has not improved.
As the losing streak gets bigger, it’s hard to see where a win comes from.
From the 2s I think we need to play Gay, Kennedy, Meline and when they are fitter - Corbett and Mattingly.




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Post by Lee Harradine Sun May 08, 2022 10:13 am

Excellent posts about where we are.

Supporters who have rarely missed a game for 40, 50, 60 and sometimes 70 years are no longer going.  It is a measure of where we are that they are somehow now being labelled 'disloyal' by people in charge who never went to a West game until recently.

Constant offers of help are refused or ignored or answered by saying 'we're not interested in the past' and long-standing volunteers are sacked or never thanked.

Then they wonder why attendances drop right off, performances are the worst in our history and our finances are heading into dangerous territory.

The members have lost their club and when that happens the future of the Club becomes perilous.

The selectors seem to just recycle the same players. When passionate supporters suggest playing younger players it takes weeks for any obvious action.

The second half yesterday was irrelevant except for 2 things - the obvious emergence of Kobe Ryan and the continued excellence of Josh Carmichael (credit for recruiting him).

We are at the lowest ebb  4 seasons after a West Adelaide passionate Board was thrown out by the SANFL and a few power-brokers who should be apologising to us.

When your most passionate supporters stop turning up, you have a massive problem and 'Stronger together' doesn't mean 'Stronger with our favoured people and them only'.

Never forget one thing  The Club belongs to the members and each member has a say, even if it has been deliberately weakened.

Stay strong, we've supported our Club for generations and will fight for its survival.
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Post by aldo russian Sun May 08, 2022 1:54 pm

We were destroyed by Strachan yesterday both in ruck and around the ground. The truth of it is we don't have a League ruckman and we have one midfielder whom we might lose to the draft in a few weeks. Joel Stevens got several good clearances and had a fair day, despite some bad mistakes, but Squire hasn't really fired a shot since round 1, Allan isn't giving us a lot and Edwards, when on the ball, isn't really a clearance player. Maguire, who was recruited to be one of our premier mids, doesn't get a run in the centre square anymore and it's hard to see where he fits in the side. Ryan showed he is up to League level yet, as the best young mid at the club, he didn't get a crack in the centre square either. Connor Fairlie averaged 9 disposals in his first 5 games this year. Ryan comes in and on debut gets 21 and kicks 2 goals. How do the coach/selectors justify that?

Carmichael was again our best I reckon, Brand was again very good, Marslen was good and worked really hard, and Edwards and Park were handy.

Despite welcoming it at the time, Gotch's appointment has been an abject failure. No doubt we'll get a report this week clutching at straws by focussing on our second half. But our 19 consecutive losses have been by an average margin of 42 points. We are miles off the pace. And what do we hear from the club? The sound of crickets.

Our club is in danger of being run into the ground by the 'new' regime who are now odds-on to deliver us our 4th consecutive wooden spoon. It was depressing watching us play so poorly in front of so few supporters (though more than the Crows had I'm guessing.) Even those who occasionally came on this site to defend the Board restructure or castigate some of us as a bunch of whingers no longer do; is it because they can't defend the indefensible? Or are we still just dismissed as an insignificant, negative rump?
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Post by RODH2 Sun May 08, 2022 2:30 pm

...and on top of all that aldo, I have heard of yet another long-time (10years+) Volunteer being summarily dismissed without so much as a thank you. This new hierarchy has no respect for the people, the volunteers, the long-time servants of the Club, the people who are the backbone of the Club. As I have said before, I walked out of that infamous meeting where the members were cast aside, shaking my head in despair. It's turned out even worse than I could have anticipated. And zero response from the Board. How do we address this?
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Post by Lachlan Sun May 08, 2022 3:18 pm

We were bottom last year and we lost Stevens,Murphy,Duval,Dunkin and Lovell all quality players. If we had kept those players we would have been a better side in 2022.
We have lost too many good players and that’s a major reason why we sit at the bottom table.

Kennedy,Gay,and Redfern must play league against Port in a couple of weeks.

Every week we play the same players in the centre square, why not try something different.


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Post by Lee Harradine Sun May 08, 2022 3:47 pm

RODH2 wrote:...and on top of all that aldo, I have heard of yet another long-time (10years+) Volunteer being summarily dismissed without so much as a thank you. This new hierarchy has no respect for the people, the volunteers, the long-time servants of the Club, the people who are the backbone of the Club. As I have said before, I walked out of that infamous meeting where the members were cast aside, shaking my head in despair. It's turned out even worse than I could have anticipated. And zero response from the Board. How do we address this?

I also knew about this recently. Long serving volunteers pushed out with no explanation or even a thank you.

That often leads (and is doing) to mental health problems at the loss of  a treasured part of their life.

The next time the Club says it takes mental health issues seriously, just laugh.

Just appalling.
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Post by Wolf Pack Sun May 08, 2022 5:12 pm

As we stare at 20 losses in a row, we hear nothing from the CEO, The President, The Football Director or The Football Operations Manager.
Have we had any information from these people so far in the season?
I could be wrong but I don’t think we have……

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Post by bruce cameron Sun May 08, 2022 7:14 pm

Wolf Pack wrote:As we stare at 20 losses in a row, we hear nothing from the CEO, The President, The Football Director or The Football Operations Manager.
Have we had any information from these people so far in the season?
I could be wrong but I don’t think we have……


As far as I know Wolf Pack, the only communication so far this year has been Murray's March Message to Members. Even these are meant to be posted monthly, but we've only had one so far. Communication continues to be an issue at our club.


https://westadelaidefc.com.au/news/message-from-the-president-march-2022/
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Post by Oldfella Mon May 09, 2022 7:02 pm

For Round 6 we saw 3 debutants play against Adelaide. Newcomers Liam Delahunty, Kobe Ryan & Michael Laudato (which makes 13 now for the year so far) all showed excellent promise for us going forward. In particular Kobe Ryan with 21 touches and 2goals was very impressive, and became more confident as the game progressed.

After a competitive 1st quarter the Crows team took out in the first half with 11 of their 13 goals coming from our errors. By half time already we were looking at a 63 point deficit and so we made a couple of structural changes which seemed to ebb the flow.

To the players credit they came out after half time with a renewed energy to post a couple of quick goals which seemed to lift the spirits. The boys tidied their skills and decision making execution to string some nice passages together. This resulted in us winning the 2nd half 8 goals, 3 behinds to 6 goals, 6 behinds. It left me a lot more buoyed that we can match it against all the teams in the competition but just have to do it for longer. For 3 quarters we actually matched it with the Crows 11.4 to 11.7.

Special mention to Josh Carmichael as he tried extremely hard all day, Kaiden Brand, Callum Park & Nic Couroupis down back held their own again. Squire, Stevens, Boyle, K Ryan & Charlie Allan battled hard in the middle of the ground and up forward. Max Marslen & Matt McKenzie showed their flair later in the game.

For our next match we play Port Adelaide Magpies at Loxton with hopefully Hamish Hartlett, Josh Ryan & Jono Beech returning to add some extra experience to the team. Hope to see many of you there supporting the team!

Brad Gotch

League Coach

https://westadelaidefc.com.au/news/gotchys-round-6-match-report-vs-adelaide/

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Post by Oldfella Mon May 09, 2022 7:04 pm

With our second game in the space of a few weeks against the eagles, we knew we would be in for a hard slog, and we would have to compete all day to find a win. This certainly was the case, and a game in which we felt as a collective group we didn’t play our best footy, but showed  we can still compete with quality opposition and show great character to scrap out a win.

It was a delight to have Mick Mattingly in the side for his first run of the year after spending 12 months on the sideline with an ACL injury. Since being recruited to the club he has impressed and led the way with his professionalism and dedication to the footy club.

Over the last couple of weeks, we’ve put an importance on being strong in the contest, and then move the footy with smart decisions. Something we feel is still a work in progress. So to be  5-1 across the first 6 weeks and still have growth areas to work on is very pleasing.

We had many solid contributors across the day, Clayton Gay impressed and is getting better and better as the weeks roll on collecting 20 touches and kicking 3 goals

Sam May returned from injury and was his relentless self, along with his fellow defenders Luke Redfern and Kenny Karpany mopping up plenty of footy.

Over the last 2 weeks Cade Kennedy has captained the side and has raised the bar with his performance which would please the supporters. Frane Babic was dominant in the ruck and continues to show his development every week. Riley Corbett again showed his presence out on the footy field, having a good day and continues to be the happiest man in football which creates a great environment for our boys.

All in all another pleasing performance and one that will take huge confidence out of moving forward. The strange reserves fixture sees us playing the eagles again after the bye weekend and we know we will have to improve on some areas if we are looking to stay on the winners list.

With the earlier game this week, we appreciate the support from everyone who made it. We hope we can continue to show you our future is bright with some talented boys in our squad.

Ryan Anderson

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https://westadelaidefc.com.au/news/andos-match-report-round-6/

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Post by Lee Harradine Tue May 10, 2022 10:02 am

I hope Brad is writing that report to keep up hope, not that he is really taking anything out of our second half.

I saw the last 10 coaches at close quarters. None would really see anything other than that the game was over at half-time and anything after that was irrelevant, except for Ryan and Carmichael's efforts.

For the long-term future, we can gradually build a better team by getting games into Gay, Kennedy, Marslen, Couroupis, etc and hope that Carmichael stays.

It's also interesting that Smithson kicked 4 for Adelaide. I remember presenting him with a trophy at a Mallee League presentation night years ago and he played juniors for us.

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Post by aldo russian Tue May 10, 2022 11:50 am

Who would have thought that a 54 point loss could be proof that we can match it with the best teams in the competition. There's positivity, and then there's being disconnected from reality.
And this notion that if we can just play better for longer we'll be fine ignores a fundamental; that the reason players don't play well for long periods is that they're not good enough to. Good players play well across the whole game, lesser players can't sustain it.
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Post by Lachlan Tue May 10, 2022 1:14 pm

Aldo,

I agree with your last post.
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